September 8, 2007 4:03 PM PDT

80% on Novell

OK, so sometimes I'm wrong. Miguel de Icaza called out an error I made in criticizing Novell for its open-source strategy. I admit that I find it hard to see beyond Novell's patent pact with Microsoft but, as Miguel pointed out in a string of emails between us today (which he graciously allowed me to cite), this leaves out a lot that Novell does well. And perhaps better than its open-source competitors (though he was too diplomatic to take shots).

Keep in mind when you read this blog that I never intentionally misrepresent anyone or any company. That said, I sometimes make mistakes. As my daughter said after a soccer game the other day, trying to convey to me just how hard she'd worked in the game (despite her team losing):

But Dad, I played so hard! I gave 80%!!

Sometimes my best, too, is equal to 80%, and that's not good enough. [Btw, I told my daughter to never tell her coach she's playing at 80%. That's a quick route to the bench. :-) ]

So, which Novell does Miguel see? His answers surprised me, because they reveal a lot more open-source work than I would have known to give Novell credit, even despite Justin Steinman once cataloguing Novell's open-source efforts on this blog.

Here is a list of just a few things that Novell does well:

  • Trajectory. Novell went from being 100% proprietary and from having a lot of internal hard-liners against open source to having a full division of open source development (the "OPS" team) and even making inroads in the Identity group and the Resource Management groups.

    This is a highly important point to which I've been largely blind. I guess I hold Novell to a higher standard than most (You don't see me regularly calling out SAP or HP, for example) because it's my alma mater. But, taking my blinders off, it's clear that Novell is making progress in its open-source efforts. It's heading in the right direction, and more quickly than I have acknowledged.

  • Novell writes good open source code. Or, more accurately stated, the code quality is quite high. As Miguel noted, Novell's work gets repackaged into a wide array of distributions/projects.

    Novell gets scant credit for this, but it's a testament to the quality of the code that distributions carry Novell's OpenOffice packages, for example, while no one (of which I'm aware) ships Sun's OpenOffice. This is not to denigrate Sun (a company for which I have growing respect), but rather to give kudos for the quality of work that Novell does. (Note, however, that this is not always the case. I don't think the JBoss team were bowled over by Novell's contributions to the application server, but nobody's perfect.)

    For that matter, while we all credit Ubuntu with Compiz (and Xgl), it was actually Novell that wrote these. Maybe Novell needs to be better at taking credit? Or maybe that's one of its virtues...a lack of self-aggrandizement?

    From my days at Novell, I was always proud of the engineering within the company. The company sometimes couldn't execute its way out of a paper bag, but its engineering was superlative. I believe Novell's engineers, now turned to open source, continue to write great code. Perhaps the business execution sometimes gets in the way of people like me seeing it....

  • Novell's engineering may be out in front of market adoption. I don't think I have to go far out on a limb to suggest that no one does better Linux desktop engineering (and associated Linux desktop market execution) than Novell. Period. The problem has been that there isn't a big market there. At least, not yet.

    I suspect that this contributes to my own myopia on Novell. I spend a lot of time thinking about the server market, and not much at all thinking about the desktop. For me, the perfect destkop has already been built: Mac OS X. Yes, I know of the inconsistencies in this (I'm a free source bigot and Apple may well be the most proprietary company on the planet, in more ways than source code). I just can't help it.

Net net: I'm going to work on seeing Novell with less bite and more neutrality. It's admittedly very hard for me. I'm not sure why, since I was fantastically treated by Novell. (The only thing that ever annoyed me within the company - beyond a lack of market execution - was that I tried to get fired the month before I left because I wanted severance, and the company refused to lay me off. :-) But I commit to try to provide a more balanced view on Novell.

Until, of course, when I don't. At that point, I fully expect Miguel, Bruce Lowry (Novell's exceptional PR lead), and others to challenge me. That's what makes this a dialogue, rather than a monologue.

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Matt, Your a BoneHead...
by ghold4 September 8, 2007 6:15 PM PDT
Matt, Your a BoneHead...
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Matt, Your a BoneHead...
by ghold4 September 8, 2007 6:15 PM PDT
Matt, Your a BoneHead...
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Truly, no good deed goes unpunished
by Matt Asay September 9, 2007 7:55 AM PDT
But I think you meant "you're" not "your." And I'm not sure either the "B" or the "H" should have been capitalized. But then, as a bonehead, what do I know? ;-)
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Truly, no good deed goes unpunished
by Matt Asay September 9, 2007 7:55 AM PDT
But I think you meant "you're" not "your." And I'm not sure either the "B" or the "H" should have been capitalized. But then, as a bonehead, what do I know? ;-)
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Novell may be doing good in Open Source
by ian.waring September 9, 2007 9:26 AM PDT
... and their lawyers carry my highest respect on the SCO issues at the moment.

However, I wonder whether their Open Source sales figures are going to come out of a coma they've been in for at least 2 years. This is never ending source of bemusement for me; for a product that's so good, why are so few customers choosing to pay Novell money for it?

The only signs of life are sleights of hand on large direct deals where Novell will throw in SUSE as a freebee when the end customers wants to license Netware, Groupwise or their Identity Management software - and even when they do, we see little uptake of the SUSE portion. Or more recently MS offering free coupons - and no apparent SUSE take-up there also.

Commercial Linux looks to be a one horse race, and Novell (and Oracle for that matter) look to be no-where - not even a dot on the horizon in currency terms. Unless anyone knows differently...

Ian W.
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Novell may be doing good in Open Source
by ian.waring September 9, 2007 9:26 AM PDT
... and their lawyers carry my highest respect on the SCO issues at the moment.

However, I wonder whether their Open Source sales figures are going to come out of a coma they've been in for at least 2 years. This is never ending source of bemusement for me; for a product that's so good, why are so few customers choosing to pay Novell money for it?

The only signs of life are sleights of hand on large direct deals where Novell will throw in SUSE as a freebee when the end customers wants to license Netware, Groupwise or their Identity Management software - and even when they do, we see little uptake of the SUSE portion. Or more recently MS offering free coupons - and no apparent SUSE take-up there also.

Commercial Linux looks to be a one horse race, and Novell (and Oracle for that matter) look to be no-where - not even a dot on the horizon in currency terms. Unless anyone knows differently...

Ian W.
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Soccer advice
by cbcalvin September 9, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Your daughter told you, the guy she trusts the most, 80%. She probably already factored in the stuff she knows she could have done better. Remind her to focus on the game during the game, trust your dad, tell the coach you did your best. If the coach is a good one, (s)he already knows what your daughter could have done better and will arrange the practices to build the required skills along with those of her teammates.
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Soccer advice
by cbcalvin September 9, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Your daughter told you, the guy she trusts the most, 80%. She probably already factored in the stuff she knows she could have done better. Remind her to focus on the game during the game, trust your dad, tell the coach you did your best. If the coach is a good one, (s)he already knows what your daughter could have done better and will arrange the practices to build the required skills along with those of her teammates.
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Novell/SUSE and the Linux Desktop
by apokryphos September 9, 2007 6:01 PM PDT
Compiz/Xgl are only skimming the surface of the stuff that Novell have done, though I don't think I've ever heard Ubuntu being credited with that anywhere. Ubuntu is really more of a packaging distribution, where SUSE is really all about innovation.

SUSE still employ more developers to directly work on KDE and GNOME than any other distributor out there. And not just any developers, as you correctly mentioned -- they're contributing _good_ open source code. I mean, in KDE for example 3 of the 7 people on the KDE Technical board are from SUSE. Two of the people on the KDE e.V. board are also SUSE employees.

They have developers working on the Kernel, X.org, OpenOffice.org, GCC, ALSA, you name it. They were the main driving force in porting Linux to amd64, and they're by far the most serious corporation who are really actively trying to push the Linux desktop into the enterprise. They are certainly without a doubt one of the biggest and most consistent contributors to open source software ever.

As for the Novell-MS deal: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
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Novell/SUSE and the Linux Desktop
by apokryphos September 9, 2007 6:01 PM PDT
Compiz/Xgl are only skimming the surface of the stuff that Novell have done, though I don't think I've ever heard Ubuntu being credited with that anywhere. Ubuntu is really more of a packaging distribution, where SUSE is really all about innovation.

SUSE still employ more developers to directly work on KDE and GNOME than any other distributor out there. And not just any developers, as you correctly mentioned -- they're contributing _good_ open source code. I mean, in KDE for example 3 of the 7 people on the KDE Technical board are from SUSE. Two of the people on the KDE e.V. board are also SUSE employees.

They have developers working on the Kernel, X.org, OpenOffice.org, GCC, ALSA, you name it. They were the main driving force in porting Linux to amd64, and they're by far the most serious corporation who are really actively trying to push the Linux desktop into the enterprise. They are certainly without a doubt one of the biggest and most consistent contributors to open source software ever.

As for the Novell-MS deal: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to the Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is general manager of the Americas division and vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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